As first assistant to Cook County State's Attorney Richard Devine, Robert Milan supervises a 1,000-member staff of lawyers, investigators and support staff.
Milan, who joined the office in 1988, also oversees the felony review unit and is first chair of the office's felony trial division. Milan says his two decades as a prosecutor make him best qualified to take over for Devine, who is retiring after three terms in office.
Devine apparently agrees. He gave Milan his endorsement this month. Five other Democrats are also on the ballot Tuesday. The winner will face Republican Tony Peraica, a Cook County commissioner, in November.
Milan sat down with the Chi-Town Daily News recently to discuss how he would run the office.
Q: According to your candidate page on the Cook County election site,
you stated that your first goal would be "to implement programs
that would help reduce the county wide homicide rate from more than
500 per year to fewer than 300 per year." How would you accomplish
this?
A: First thing I would do is expand our street corner conspiracy unit.
That's the unit that goes up on the open air drug markets, the
places where the gangs hang out. I would triple it in the city,
and then take it out to gang-infested areas in the suburbs. By
doing so, we go into these open area drug markets, watch them, then
we sweep them.
For six to eight weeks, we'll take as many as 40
gang bangers off the streets. Gangs, guns and drugs. When you do
that, you save a lot of lives. When those people are on the
streets, those guns are on the streets. Those are the people who
are doing the shootings. I guarantee if we do that, homicide rates
will plummet.
On top of that, I'm going to conduct summits in the most crime-ravaged areas in our county. In those summits, I am going to
include the clergy, school superintendents and teachers, police,
prosecutors and community activists to talk about what's going on
on the streets. To share information, to receive information from
the community and to give them information.
That will do a couple things. One, it will help us to deal with
crime on the streets, to attack this homicide rate. Two, it will
bridge a gap because there is some distrust between the minority
community and law enforcement. When they see us out there every
single month working hand-in-hand with them, that will go a long
way towards dealing with this distrust.
Q: I attend Community Alternative Policing Strategy (CAPS) meetings
and they (officers in attendance) always talk about how much the
police cameras cost. Are there enough funds available to support
your goals?
A: There are. I will go to the county board to ask for more money.
Not a lot, but I'm going to ask for more money for that program and
others. I think it is an easy sell. We're talking about saving
lives, and we're going to save a lot of lives by doing this. There
are ways within the office.
There are a couple things I really want to do: expand our drug
diversion programs and mental health courts. Initially by
expanding those units, it's going to cost us money but in the long
run, it's going to save us a lot of money. What we are doing is
diverting people that are hooked on drugs out of criminal court and
getting treatment to stop them from revolving back into the
criminal courts. So you're going to save money.
The same with the mentally ill. If we divert them out of criminal
court and get them treatment, they will not keep coming back in.
Although it's going to cost money in the beginning, it's going to
save the county and (our office) a lot of money in the long run.
By doing things like that, I'm going to be able to pay for it.
That's how I'll do it.
Q: You also stated that you would "increase our visibility in the
community." What do you mean by this?
A: Conduct the summits every single month in the most crime ravaged
parts of our community - suburbs and city. That's going to go a
long way. By sharing information and getting information from the
community about gangs, guns and drugs on the streets. Getting out
and sharing information with them is going to go a long way. We
are going to help to attack the homicide rate and the gang problem
out there ... they are going to see us in the community. They are
going to put a name to the face. That's going to go a long way.
They're going to see firsthand how much our office cares about the
community and how dedicated we are.
Q: I know for a fact it's hard to get people to attend CAPS meetings
and they are actually in the immediate community, how do you
propose to get people to your summits?
A: Look, all I can do is try. I'm not going to knock on their doors
or drag them out, you know? If I do it, and I go out and meet with
these people, I'm bringing clergy members, community activists,
school superintendents, police and prosecutors. I think people are
going to show up. It's going to catch a lot of attention. If the
actual Cook County State's Attorney is sitting at that table,
talking about this stuff, I think it's going to catch a lot of
attention.
If people don't want to come, that's their prerogative. I'm doing
everything I can short of dragging them out of their living
room.
Q: Do you have the support of the clergy? Some of the clergy members
in my community are not very supportive.
That's too bad. You know what I'm real tired of? I'm real tired
of people marching AFTER the 8-year-old is gunned down at the candy
store or AFTER the mother is gunned down on Halloween night. Then
they gather to march. Forget it! The time to get together is now.
The time to get together is every single month before the
shootings occur. This is all about prevention.
I've been received very graciously by the clergy and the churches
I've gone to during this campaign. Very graciously. I've had
almost overwhelmingly positive experiences. So, I expect it to be
the same when I do that (conduct monthly summits).
Going back to what you brought up earlier. If people don't want to
help, you know, that's their prerogative. At least they are going
to know that I am there.
Q: How would your approach to the problems of police brutality and
police corruption be different?
A: The only thing different I'll do is increase our manpower in those
units. A lot of the opponents in the race talk about we don't do
enough in this area, but the facts belie that.
For the last nine years, I've been in positions of leadership. We've
indicted somewhere between 150 and 160 police officers for crimes
ranging from theft to first-degree murder. I personally worked on
the investigation which led to the charging of Officer (Edward) Leak (Jr.) for
first-degree murder. Now he's serving 60 years in prison.
It was our offices that lead the investigation into Officer (John) Herman
who sexually assaulted a woman while on the job on the South Side.
He's now serving a very lengthy prison term.
It was our offices that lead the investigation into the seven
special operations officers who were basically a renegade band of
cops committing crimes like armed robberies and home invasions. We
indicted all seven of them. I can go and on pointing out
examples.
It's unfortunate that in these political races people throw out
accusations without backing them up. (To say) that we turn a blind
eye to police corruption and police brutality is completely false.
We have to keep doing what we're doing.
My position always has been that law enforcement should be held to
a higher standard than anybody else. I have a great deal of respect for the men
and women in the police department, and they know that. At the
same time, if they cross the line and I am the state's attorney,
they are going to pay the price.
Q: How challenging is it to actually prosecute different officers? I
know you have your job to do, but we have a big huge political ring
in Chicago. You have some officers that are "protected" by
politics. How does that affect your job?
A: I have never once, not one time in my whole career, not even as
first assistant or chief deputy, ever received a phone call from
anybody asking me to protect a cop. Ever. I can look you right in
the eye and tell you that. It's never happened. None of these
guys, these 150 - 160 cases (over the last nine years) I just told
you about - no one has ever picked up the phone and said, "Bob,
give this guy a break." It's never happened. As far I know, that
doesn't exist.
Q: According to newspaper reports, there is a huge influx of recently
released prison inmates returning to already gang and violence-ridden communities in the county. Is this a problem for the state's
attorney to address?
A: Maybe. It depends. Bottom line is, when an individual commits a
crime and is sentenced to prison, he or she is placed on parole.
If they violate the parole, if they don't follow the restrictions
regarding their parole, they should be prosecuted. If I'm the
state's attorney, that's what's going to happen.
I'm very happy to see that the homicide rate is going down in
Chicago. It's the lowest it's been since 1965: 435 - 440
homicides in 2007. There have been years when the city of Chicago
has had more than 1000 homicides ... The fact that it's
down to 435 or 440 is a tribute to the police department. I think
we get some credit for the hard work we're doing too.
Even though there's an influx of gang bangers and hardened
criminals coming back into the community, so far, it hasn't
affected our homicide rate.
When I talk about the 500 number, that's county wide. We have about
500 a year. Even though it's way less than it's been
in many, many years, our goal should be to attack it, to get that
rate down. Our goal should be zero ... that would probably never
happen, but that should be our goal.
Q: You said that "the office should be more involved in community
outreach, particularly in the minority communities, in order to
build trust among those we most commonly represent." Why hasn't
that been done adequately under Richard Devine?
A: Well, it was done. Very well. We had community prosecution offices
(in different communities) where assistant state's attorneys used
to work in those offices. The community could come in and talk to
them about their problems. When we got cut dramatically last year
by the county budget, we had to close all those offices. That was
a big hit. Not just to us, but to the communities. We had to
terminate 153 people; 143 actual people and give up another 10
slots. So, community outreach had to be closed down.
Here is my plan. I can't count on getting that money back in this
budget because there are other things that I want to spend the
money on. My plan is, let's do it for free. Let's just go out
there at night. I'll go out there and bring people with me. I'll
be happy to do it. I think it's vital that we do it.
Q: In which communities were the centers located?
A: We had them in different areas. We had one in Maywood, one out
south, another one on the North Side and another out west. We had
a number of them.
Q: What is your office's conviction rate and how much attention is
paid to this rate internally?
A: Attention paid to it - very little. We are not about numbers; we
are about doing the right thing. As I sit here, I can't even give
you the exact number. I bet our conviction rate is somewhere
around 95 percent, but I'm speculating.
Q: Does this estimated conviction rate take into account cases that
are resolved with a plea?
A: Absolutely.
Q: What is the percentage of cases resolved by plea?
A: I bet in access of 80 percent, but again, I'm speculating. But I bet I'm
pretty close on that.
Q: What role do you believe the state's attorney should play in the
area of police corruption?
A: A vital role. We should be the leaders on it. I have a great deal
of respect for the men and women of the Chicago Police Department.
The overwhelming majority of them are dedicated, wonderful people.
But when somebody crosses the line, when somebody takes money, when
somebody goes out and intentionally hurts somebody, when somebody
goes out and commits a crime while using the badge, they are going
to pay the price.
Q: What is the idea behind your "shoot teams?"
A: Here's the idea. In order to take away any appearance of
impropriety, I don't believe the Chicago Police Department should
investigate their own police-involved shootings. What they should
do is have a completely separate shoot team. Investigators that
are trained to do one thing and one thing only - investigate
police-involved shootings. Their job would be to go out and
interview all the witnesses, to recover evidence, to put the case
together and then bring it to Office of Professional Standards
(OPS) and not the police department. They should be completely
separate. OPS would then bring the investigation to us.
Therefore, nobody can say cops are covering up for cops. The
community will know that it has been investigated properly, and no
one can ever point fingers again. It's just a smart thing to
do.
Q: What areas of prosecution would be your top priorities, if you are
elected?
A: As I pointed out, my goal would be to attack the homicide rate by
increasing the street corner conspiracy unit. Another thing I want
to do is create an Internet predator unit. All you have to do
watch MSNBC (news) on any given night to see what's going on out
there with all these individuals trying to get to our kids. We are
the second largest prosecutors officers in the country. I think
it's about time we come up with the money and put together one of
those units. That would be one of my top priorities - to increase
the manpower in our sex crimes unit. Expand that in both the city
and in the suburbs.
I also really want to create mental health courts and misdemeanor
courts. We can't do that alone. We have to work with the
judiciary and the defense bar. Again, it's going to cost us money
up front, it's going to save us a lot of money in the future. When
someone is mentally ill and is walking down the street attacking
people and committing petty crimes ... if you
take them out of criminal court and get them treatment, they are
not going to come back two weeks later and attack somebody.
They're going to be on their medications. They are going to receive
treatment. You're going to end up saving money because the cycle
stops. And it's morally the right thing to do. So that's another
thing I want to work on.
I want to really work on making our child support division a place
for career prosecutors. That won't cost us any money because that
would be all grant money. Presently, we have young assistant
state's attorneys handling those cases and they do a good job.
There are a lot of people, men and women, that would like to do
that work for a career. I'd like to make it a place for career
prosecutors. Then, they would represent the generally indigent
mothers who aren't receiving their child support.
Those would be my top things to do.
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